>> good to be with you. >> you paid tribute to the noble statesmen, nelson mandela. you say you treasure the memory of your meetings with him. what is the most memorable? >> the most memorable was his modesty. he walked up to me and said, hello, i am nelson mandela, like you would not know. when he spoke at the general assembly session, he walked up slowly to that podium and he would take out his glasses and he would clean them and then he would put them on, then he would speak with a great cadence. i also visited him. as a human being, he was stunning. the more you knew the history of a man that had spent so much time in prison.